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Hey_homies · Jul 22, 2009, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

This needs to be separated from the wall of text above, as it is rather important in finding a solution for this issue.

Hey_homies, I can try to craft a custom vBIOS for you. In order to do this, I need you to create a copy of your vBIOS so I know exact model, revision, and manufactuer of your card.

I might be able to balance the delta multiplier in the card, which should balance performance out in Guild Wars. I've done this for several others, but know that it still carries some risk. If you would like to try this as a possible solution to the issue, just let me know.

As for two other solutions to help alleviate driver issues.

Head to your nVidia Control Panel.
Under the 3D Settings category, you will see Manage 3D Settings
Go the the Program Settings Tab
Select Guild Wars (if it isn't there, navigate to it using the "Add" function. Make sure you add gw.exe and not a shortcut or other file)

Make sure Extension Limit is set to ON.
Multi Display/Mixed GPU Performance is set to Single Display Performance
Threaded Optimization is set to OFF
Maximum Pre-Rendered Frame is set to 2

Give those settings a try and see what happens.

Thanks Rahja, Tried those settings in Control Panel and it still doesn't work. For some reason the fps is now capped at around 56-58 most of the time.

Killamus · Jul 22, 2009, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by Hey_homies

Thanks Rahja, Tried those settings in Control Panel and it still doesn't work. For some reason the fps is now capped at around 56-58 most of the time.

That's typical. There's a hard cap of 60 on vsych, but it often will stop around the high 50s instead - Turn off vsych to see your real cap. Not to mention that it really doesn't matter, the eye can only register about half of that, and vsych gets rid of the half-screen lines you'll see on high FPS.

Hey_homies · Jul 22, 2009, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Turned off v-sync and got below 60fps in ToA. I just don't get it

Malician · Jul 22, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by Hey_homies

Turned off v-sync and got below 60fps in ToA. I just don't get it

I don't see it anywhere in the thread - what are your temps looking like (measured with nVidia's System Monitor or Rivatuner)? Modern graphics cards can tolerate extraordinary temps but if the heatsink loses direct contact with the GPU core (1MM difference, even) the GPU might start throttling itself.

pickles319 · Jul 22, 2009, 04:05 AM // 04:05

When I turn off Vertical Sync and put my graphics levels all the way down I can get up to 400 FPS. ^^

Hey_homies · Jul 22, 2009, 04:27 AM // 04:27

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Originally Posted by Malician

I don't see it anywhere in the thread - what are your temps looking like (measured with nVidia's System Monitor or Rivatuner)? Modern graphics cards can tolerate extraordinary temps but if the heatsink loses direct contact with the GPU core (1MM difference, even) the GPU might start throttling itself.

When I'm playing Gw, temps stay at about 57-61 for the gpu. Also, the cpu stays at around 50-55. At idle the gpu is at 40'ish while its the same for the cpu

Quaker · Jul 22, 2009, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

If there is ANY issue with current (which isn't pull, as you are citing... pull is wattage, which is VERY different),

Neither of you seem to understand basic electrical circuits. You toss around terms like "efficiency" and "pull" with ease. If "pull" means anything, it's only just a convenient way of envisioning a concept and would generally be classified as "lingo" whose meaning can vary depending upon who's using the term. There's no sense complaining about one misuse of the term over another.
If you want to be technical about it, current results from the difference in "potential" between the negative and positive poles of a circuit (measured as Voltage). Whether you want to say that current is "pulled" or "pushed" through the circuit is not important. (However, it is basically only one or the other.)

Voltage multiplied by Amps equals Wattage - they (plus Resistance) are all inter-related and are not "VERY different" - they're all part of the package.

The power available on the particular circuit which supplies the video card is what matters. The overall wattage of the power supply is not entirely relevant, although it's a indicator of the power available. You could build a power supply that delivers 100 amps at 5 volts (500 watts) and only 1 amp at 12volts (12 watts), and it would add up to 512 watts, but wouldn't run any normal video card. (I know it's an extreme example.)

The efficiency of the PS is not relevant. The efficiency affects how much power is wasted in converting the AC from the wall to the DC output. For example, a power supply that is 80% efficient would take 625 watts from the AC to produce 500 watts out. A 50% efficient supply would use 1000watts to produce the 500watts out. The main point is that they both supply 500watts at the output. (and I realize this is just a simplified version without power factors etc.)

But anyway, blah, blah, blah. The original topic has been high-jacked.

P.s. - Credentials - 34 years working for the Defense Department as an Electronics Technologist (1 bin below engineer) on Torpedo and Missile guidance systems. I used to "know my stuff" once, but, admittedly, it's getting a bit rusty now.

Sir Seifus Halbred · Jul 22, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by tom999

think yourself lucky
my fps is usually around 15 lol
but all runs smoothly

now OT: it dips just coz of amount of data incoming as u noticed in spamadan where every1 is selling like no tomorrow

Mine too, but not that low. I'm usually at 20-30.

KZaske · Jul 23, 2009, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by Hey_homies

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Run #2- DX10 1680x1050 AA=4x, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 24.895
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I found a bench mark on Tom's Hardware where they used a driver close to the same revision you used. They used 182.08 while you used 186.18. Here is a link to thier scores. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...90,2262-7.html
At 1680x1050 AA=4x 64Bit, Quality set to "High Details" they got 34.4 FPS. You had your details set to VeryHigh so I am not sure how that works out.
It could be power, driver or both still. But remember they are using a clean system.

P.s. - Following Quaker's lead - Credentials - FCC Class 1 Lic (1977) worked in an electronics repair shop rebuilding radio systems and anything else I needed too. And like Quaker, I used to "know my stuff" once, but that was before the "Digital craze" as a few friends call it. Alas, I too am a bit rusty now. Not sure I could design and build a circuit if I had to now.

Lord Sojar · Jul 23, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I can try to give you a custom BIOS, but you will need to save your current vBIOS and upload it via Rapidshare. Toss me a link to it.

You can use Nibitor to grab the vBIOS file to upload. Here is a download link:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/V...S-Editor.shtml